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Handwritten Guide to Coin Making

Welcome to my guide. Ive been trading for over 6 months now. At my peak, within 2
weeks of trading, I managed to turn 70,000 coins into 1.1 million. I was able to buy all my
dream players as my fortune grew, and put together, literally, an Ultimate Team. I then began
selling on eBay and from there grew to create I got to a stage where I was
buying over 10m coins a day from different suppliers and selling them on. Now that there is a
huge coin drought, I cant do this anymore. If you want to make coins like I used to do, you will
need patience, dedication and a sharp eye for a bargain. The guide is split into 5 main

Making coins with players (The best section. The one I use the most)
Buying & Selling Strategies
Other Methods of Coin Generation

If you keep to the guide, learn from what you read, and apply your own intellect, you will be
sure to be making hundreds of thousands within weeks, and even days for some. There is no
such thing as player duplication, coin generators or any kind of easy coin making schemes.
These are all mythical stories aimed at gullible punters by scammers trying to take advantage.
You must work for your fortune, which in turn will make you appreciate it all the more.

Enjoy and prosper!

Making Coins through Players
All players of all shapes, size and colour class can be traded for profit. What I like to do is
select around 10 – 20 players, get familiar with their most recent market value, then
repeatedly search through their auctions finding bargain prices. I chose just 10 – 20 players
because by the time ive finished searching through all of them maybe around 20-30 minutes
would have passed, by which time a whole new range of auctions could easily have appeared.
The more frequently you revisit a particular players auction market, the more likely you are to
find yourself a bargain!
Set up as follows. Select a player range according to the size of your wealth. Roughly around
10%. If you have 50k, look for players around the 4 -5k mark, etc... You want to be trading
a few at a time. You never want to put all your eggs in one basket unless you find a blindingly
obvious bargain but it will slow down your cash flow. Either way, you must know the players
current market price. To discover this, search for the players lowest Buy It Now price, then
compare this with the next cheapest 3 - 4 or so options. The average of these cheapest 3 – 4
Buy it Now prices is the price that player will almost certainly sell for within a fair amount of
time. You always want to try and sell your player for the cheapest price around so you can
continue to use the money and profit to carry on buying and selling. Try to keep the cash tap
flowing. When buying, bare in mind the 5% tax EA take. So make sure you are selling for a
profit that exceeds this.
Prices fluctuate, so be sure to re-check the players market values every couple of days. Also,
when searching for players to buy, always use the “Current Price” search option and not the
“Buy It Now”. This is because there will always be players that have been put up by people
without a Buy It Now price, so they would not show up if you searched for the BIN.

Finding the “It” card
This is the card you have grown fond of as you have always been able to sell. For me it was
Remy of Marseille in Ligue 1 and Doumbia, the Ivory Coast forward in the Russian League.
Remy would ALWAYS sell for me at around 4,400 and I would regularly find him for around 2
– 3.5k. Similarly, with Doumbia, he would ALWAYS sell for me at around 5,500 and I would
regularly pick him up for between 2.5 – 4.5k. Both players were found in auctions and buy it
now. I made tens of thousands from trading them alone. I picked them in particular because
they are fast, strong, have good finishing, and most importantly are cheap. So all people with a
limited budget (which is the majority) would be trading them to improve their team.

Pump and Dump
This is a relatively well known method, and works pretty well if you have a lot of coins. This is
where you buy up as many of one single player under a certain price that you can afford, and
wait. By having around 20 of that player in your trade pile, there will be a slight market
shortage, and simply down to the basics of supply and demand, prices will increase. As this
happens, release the players back into the market one by one. Careful not to do all at once or
you will once again saturate the market and just have wasted your time. Be careful with this

method though. It can be risky if used incorrectly. I made some bad mistakes in my early days
of trading. I bought a bunch of Thierry Henrys in the CAM position as I saw a load going under
market price. Only after a day or so of them not selling did I realize he was actually going for
cheaper in the CF and ST positions under the same formation. Live and learn!
This method works particularly well with higher value players like informs etc as there will be
less of them going around.

New Players Method
This method has the potential for huge profits. Every TOTW that comes out will bring in new
players not many have heard of or seen. Therefore, during the first few days, no one will know
the true market price, and so there can be huge differences between BINs and actual price. So
keep an eye out for these bargains and take advantage of this market instability.

Well Known Profit Making Methods
59th Minute Method – By setting your league, i.e The Premier League, and your maximum BIN
price, you could scroll through all the pages until you get to the point where all the auctions
are on the 59th minute, and wait around until you find a good deal. Because most auctions are
only put up for 1 hour, the 59th minute is where you could find the best deals within seconds
of them being put up. Some people are just ignorant to the value of some players, and for
example I picked up a Sagna for just 900 BIN giving me a few thousand profit after tax.
Beware though. As this method is so well known, you will have to partly rely on luck, and on
your reaction speed to click on the “Buy Now” button before someone else does so first!
Because of this you may end up wasting a lot of time on this method, which is why in my
opinion, there are better alternatives.
Discarding Gold Players - Regular gold player quick sell for around 300 and rare shinys quick
sell for about 650. So as long as you can pick up these players on the market for below this,
you can make a few coins at a time. Useful for those just starting out with few coins.
Popular players – Try and buy players in the popular Premier League and Liga BBVA for around
350 – 400 coins. They will almost always sell for around 550 – 700 as they are more
popular and always trading. Especially if they are from the more popular countries of England
and Spain. This is particularly useful for those just starting out on UT as it’s a pretty sure fire
way of making a steady profit.

What Makes A Player Sell
1. Pace & Dribbling – These are the two most valuable stats on a player in the UT
marketplace. Any player with higher pace and dribbling stats compared to another
with the same rating will almost always be worth a lot more. EG Theo Walcott, rated
82, but with 96 pace, will always sell in the high thousands.

2. Liga BBVA and Premier League - These are the two most popular leagues, because
they have most of the worlds best players. Followed by a second tier of Ligue 1, Serie
A and Bundesliga. Therefore prices will generally be higher, and players will sell better.
Therefore I recommend you stick to these leagues unless you spot any obvious niches
in the market.
3. Formation – The 3 best formations are 41212/442/433. Players with these
formations will generally sell for more, with the 41212 players selling for the most.
Take advantage of this knowledge and search for the people that put up players with
these formations for the same.
4. Country – Many people try to get 100 chemistry by getting players from the same
country. Therefore players from obscure countries wont sell as well.

Obscure Methods Few People Know About
433 CDMs – There is no CDM position in the 433 formation, and so players in this position
and formation are worthless to people trying to build a team, leading to lower prices for these
cards. Even if you change to an inferior position like a 532, people are more likely to show
interest as it can slot straight into their team.
2 Accounts – For this method you’ll need 2 EA accounts, and a lot of patience, but this can
guarantee around 10 – 15k profit per hour. For this to work, start by putting up 20 – 30
bronze players on your main account, for at least 12 hours each. Make sure they have a
unique start price and BIN so you can find them easily. Next, sign out and sign back in on your
2nd and new account. When you start up Ultimate Team for the first time, you should get your
initial bronze pack with your 23 squad players, and usually 2 – 3 contracts, of which one is
usually silver. Discard everything except the silver item and send to your trade pile. This
should leave you with around 400 coins. Next, find one of the bronze players you put up
through your main account and make a trade offer for all your remaining coins + the silver
item. The whole process takes a few minutes. Next, delete your team and start again. Create
a new Ultimate Team and repeat the process until you have made trade offers with all the
bronze players you put up through the main account. Finally, sign out and sign back in the
main account and accept all the trade offers. This should leave you with around 8 – 12k coins
depending on how many you got done, + 20 – 30 silver items, which go for around 200
coins each. Therefore, after however long it took, you should have 8 – 12k coins + 4 – 6k
value in silver items, leaving you with around 12 – 18k profit. Allthough this method can be
very tedious and time consuming, its one of the best ways for beginners to get the kick off
they need to make coins quickly and begin serious trading.

Making Coins with Consumables
Contracts, Healing, Player Attributes and Fitness – These were all great methods of
making money in FIFA 11 but because so many people are playing this year, and so many have
started trading in these items, all the prices have plummeted. You can only make 50 -100
coins on most of these items at a time, so to be honest, your time is better spent elsewhere.
Kits and Badges – Again, this is a pretty worthless market. The few kits to look out for
though are the Kaiser Chiefs kit and the Seattle Sounders FC kit because they are sponsored
by XBOX. These kits can go for a couple of thousand coins, so keep an eye out for a bargain.
The badges that tend to sell well are the animal badges, as some weird players think it makes
them look hard or something. Overall, you don’t need to waste your time in this particular
Formations – This can be a great market to make coins in. Spend some time in here and get
to learn the market, the formations and at what prices they tend to trade. I cant say exactly
because It changes all the time. In my peak, I would win certain formations in auctions and
through buy nows, and sell on for crazy profits. A lot of the best deals I found were dead in
the middle of the British night. Around 1AM – 7AM. Yes its late, but money never sleeps!
Some examples:
41212 – I would buy any for up to 8,000 knowing I could easily sell at 9,600+ which =
1,170 profit each time due to EA tax of 5% on the sale. So as not to tie up too much of my
free cash, Id try to buy closer to 5,000.
442/433 – Id buy for up to 3,500 and easily sell on for 4,400 BIN and sometimes 5,000
BIN depending on the current state of the market
4312 – Would generally go for anywhere around 1,800 and above, so Id buy for 1,200 and
sell on.
I never bothered learning about the rest of the formations, because like with the player
method from the beginning, I had a select few I learnt about and specialized in which increased
my efficiency in buying, selling and finding the best deals. Feel free to experiment.

Buying and Selling Strategies
1. Always bid on an auction item at the point when there are 15 seconds left to go. This
is the last point in which the auction time will not increase from a new bid. If a new bid
is put in after the 15 second point, the time will reset back to around 15 seconds or
just below. Your aim should be to get in and get out asap, so ensure you put your bids
in before that 15 second point so you don’t waste any time.
2. If you get out bid on an item, immediately bid back. This will show you are serious
about acquiring the item and can sometimes put the other bidder off. Also,
sometimes, if you are lucky, the other bidder will have a few items he is bidding on
and watching at once. So by bidding back immediately, you may sometimes do so
without him realizing as he has gone to quickly check up on the other items. If after a
small back and fourth bidding war, start to wait till the last second to put a new bid in.
Again, if you are lucky, you can win the auction by testing the other bidders patience,
or if he has other items he needs to worry about, youll be wasting his time to the point
where he leaves to tend these other items. Experiment with your own techniques and
strategies too.
3. Consequently, never begin an auction war by bidding at the last second. This can
sometime wind up the other bidder if done too early, and out of spite and anger make
them want to win the auction even more, thus almost definitely driving up the price.
4. Always set yourself a maximum price your willing to go to. Anything over, and you are
eating into your profit. Plus, you don’t want to waste any time. Once the threshold is
met, pack up and move on to the next one. Time management is another key to
efficient growth of your wealth.
5. Most of the time, auctions that begin with a start price of 150 are a waste of time.
Because the start price is so low, many buyers will show an interest, add to watch list,
and all battle it out in the last few seconds of the auction. More often than not, the
price will go higher than you are willing to pay. Instead find the auctions with mid
range start prices. For example, when I was trading formations. If I saw a 442 with a
start price of 150 and no BIN, I wouldn’t even bother bidding. But when I found one
with a start price of 2500 and no BIN, I licked my lips. More often these auctions will
go more unnoticed by the larger crowds as they are all taken in by the auctions
starting on 150. Look out for these. Of course you may still get a bidding contest,
but in the long run, the odds are on your side.
6. If there are two cards in a row, both with low start prices, then add both to your watch
list and focus more on the second card. The first one will most of the time generate
the greater interest, so the second will have less bidders competing for it. This works
better with 3 cards in a row, and better with 4…. Etc…
7. Sometimes, in a bidding war, its handy to bid a couple of times in a row to give the
illusion there is more competition than your opposition had hoped for, which can
quickly help them lose interest in the card as they know it will be harder to get a good
price. You must be tactical about this though. Don’t just bid a few times in a row
without thinking about it. Make it look realistic. Do one immediately, then wait a few
seconds then another, then again immediately, then wait… etc.. Im sure youll work
out a good pattern that works for you.
8. When you’re the first bidder on an auction, always bid a small amount over the start
price. This will give people the impression that a few people have already started

bidding on the item and have it in their watch list, which in turn can sometimes deter
any new bidders from bothering to get involved as they know there is less chance of
getting a good price.
1. Start your auctions with a low start price, preferably 150, as this will generate the
most interest, and spark a bidding frenzy in the last few seconds. Make sure your
auctions end at peak times. Usually around 8 – 12PM GMT when most of Britain is on
UT and all the Americans are out from school. This way you can be sure more buyers
will be likely to find and bid on your item.
2. If you want to sell via Buy it Now, which I recommend, so you can get your money
quicker and use to continue trading, then research the BINs of your item like I
described in the beginning of this doc. As I said, try to always be the cheapest around
so your items sell quickly and you can re invest your cash. Subsequently, make sure
you’ve bought at a cheap enough price to sell at a cheap price but still make profit!
3. If your lucky enough to enter a market where all the prices are very high and you know
will not sell, a lot of buyers will be pissed off there are no good prices for this item. So
if you were to put one up for auction, they will all fight over it and drive the price up.
4. Never put up an item with the start price equal to the average price. This will not
attract many bidders. I would just stick to selling through Buy it Nows. I hardly ever
use Auctions to be honest.

Other Ways of Making Monies
Many can spend thousands of coins, many MS points and even hundreds of real pounds on
buying packs and getting left with muck all! The chances of getting an awesome player in a
pack are very remote (although after 6 packs I got a blue 94 TOTS Ibrahimovic!!!  HAHA!
But that was EXTREMELY lucky). But don’t worry, there are ways to make the most out of
Bronze Packs - This is quite a well known method. You can buy bronze packs for 400 coins,
and because the cheapest anything can sell on the market for is 150 by auction and 200 Buy
It Now, means you can offload all the contents of the pack at a profit. Sometimes you could
even get the odd silver item worth 200 – 250. So your profit by the end could be around
700 – 900. Be patient as it can take these items a while to sell sometimes. Always put up for
1 hour and relist so they are always near the front for people to see and buy.
Silver Packs – Dont bother with these. Very little profit to be made here. Waste of time in
my opinion.
Gold Packs – The potential losses in here can be huge. Id say, unless your filthy stinking rich,
never ever spend coins on these packs, only ever real money or MS points. The chances of
getting a Ronaldo, Messi or inform player are hugely against you. But If you can afford it,
although I really don’t encourage it, id say its ok to occasionally go ahead and have a gamble
every now and again.
Overall, the Bronze packs are the safest way to make your money, but the Gold packs have
the higher rewards. Anyway as I said, save your coins! They are highly valuable!
What time should you buy
Well between 4pm when all the Brits are coming out of school and 4am when the Americans
are starting to think about going to bed, will be the busiest times. And especially during the
weekends. So you want to aim to do your trading from the early hours of the morning and
throughout the day when you can find the best bargains with fewer bidding opponents to
worry about!

Thanks! 
Thank you for buying my guide!
I will always be around to answer any questions and discuss things with you. Either on the facebook group, or on the Live Chat through the
Remember, Im happy to sell you this knowledge ive gained, as to be honest I cant really be
bothered to trade anymore. I got to a stage where I was buying millions of coins from suppliers
everyday, so the thought of going back to working all day on trades to make a few hundred
grand here and there to sell on is no longer so appealing. Similarly, if you fly first class once,
youll never want to sit in economy again!
Anyway, as I said, Im very available. Feel free to approach me at any time, and hopefully I will
be getting more and more coins in stock for you to buy. Ofcourse the easiest and BEST way to
acquire coins is to buy form me! 
Good luck!

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